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Holly. Yes. How are you? I'm doing wonderful. Good. Not your first time on film? No.

Um, how long did you think about doing porn before you got into it?

Um, 25 years. Okay. It's been an evolution. Um, I started off as a, oh, doing it for my husband and then it just progressed to something that I actually enjoy.

Okay. Now, was it his idea or yours to film? It was actually his idea since he wasn't there and he could be there but not be there.

Vicariously? Yes. Got it. Okay. Okay. And I did it for him and I made him happy and then, um, I had to come to terms with it and then I've just evolved and I'm like, now I do it for me.